I loved fishing Bass Champs last year and can’t wait for the first one of the year this year. When I heard rumors of a side pot I was even more excited because I love side pots and I think there is zero downside. This one however I cut wrap my brain around.
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Truth bro.
This is a weird way to do a side pot for sure. I can’t imagine any guys that are serious contenders will opt in, and guys that know they will struggle likely won’t either.
Todd I’m a member of your private group but none of my comments ever come up under member comments
Side pot money has to be separate from the tournament money. That’s the only way it works.
Those who don’t agree with side pot money probably don’t think they are good enough to compete. In any case they don’t have to get in
Side pot money is the same as skins in golf. Simple
I don't want to do bad William in the tournament I want to do good so I can win some more money
If you give me that much money I would buy a beer new truck in a bass boat to hauler
Sounds dumb to me pay the top guys pretty common sense sounds like it should be called THE LOOSER POT lol
Man that’s some everybody wins participation trophy weird BS there . Whole point of a tournament is your betting on yourself to win or do well. I feel you are correct in your feelings . Why reward those who don’t do well. ALS leaves room to sandbag to fix your weight as well . Just wait till near the end and if last in money currently is 15 lbs and you have 5 for 16 throw back a 2lber before weighing in and boom you get paid. I’d be starting my own real side pot and getting everyone in with cash and pay out too 10 only
In pool and golf tournaments they have a Calcutta where you bid on who you think will win . It's customary to offer half to the person you "bought " .. .
What about auctioning off fishermen ????
I hear what you’re saying, Todd. I think it’s an opportunity to win more money. If you think you’re gonna do,well in the tournament whenever you get in the side pots. That’s the reason I always get in the side pots because I think I’m gonna do well in the tournament anyway I might as well win extra money.
Nobody would pay $100 side pot if you didn't have chance to win some back.
It would be good idea if some maybe 30% went to few more places out of the money. Tournaments are loosing anglers because some think they are just donating to the heavy hitters. To get more people in the field it might help to pay down to others. Sacrifice some to get more
This is not a side pot, it's insurance against failure
The Texas Fishing Forum is not the place to go for informed opinions. They do have lots of opinions though.
Yeah, once people understand how the proposed side pot works, nobody will participate. The good anglers won't because they know they won't get any of it, the average anglers won't because they still don't think they'll get any of it, and they will want to limit their costs.
You are 100% correct. Pay the people that do their job. Sounds like they feel entitled!! To the money because there getting in the side pot and suck 😢
When I was fishing tournaments out west, the side pots were paid out the same as the tournament payout, not starting after the last tournament check.
Todd, If I understood you correctly you are thinking other's get in side pots in the event they wouldn't do well in the tournament. Somewhat at the beginning you used the word gambling and that's the correct descriptive word because that's all fishing derbies are a form off gambling that's why every opportunity I had to get in a sidepot I entered because for me it meant Im increasing my opportunity to make more money 💰 🤑
Yeah, but is it Castle"dean" or Castle"dine"?
The problem is Todd they are loosing applicants due to the skill level of those fishing the trail. I mean let's face it there are some very good anglers in these events. I mean I have heard several of my customers talking about how they are just not on the same level and it was supposed to be for amateurs. At the end of the day my opinion is if you can't keep up go back to the ole drawing board. Practice, Bass Champs just isn't for the weekend angler anymore. Its seriously competitive and Those guys and gals are putting in their time to get where they are at the end of each season.
Why do bass tournaments not have a Calcutta? Every large Salt Water Tournament has one, and it brings in really good money to the top finishing guys.
Agree! Its weird. I also agree it's kinda weird when we find out how different we all think. I fish a lot of derbies where all side pot goes to first which I'm not a super fan of but I get it. Makes more sense than your situation
So if Bass Champs wants to pay more spots they need to do that out of the original entry fee. And then use the side pot to get those top places back to where they want those payouts to be.
Where’s the downside of this? If participation is down because guy’s have quit fishing these because they can’t get lucky. Well now there’s a little incentive for them to try again. You should like this because if more participate the top money goes up right? That’s what you’re complaining about, so here’s a possible fix.
I always thought the side pot would only be paid out to the top top 3 or whatever that entered into the side pot bet. Why would someone win side pot $ if they didn't pay into it?
We won a big fish pot once because a guy didn't get in it
JC outdoors side pot pays 90% back but does not add places. I’ve fished a few that the side pot was 100% pay back.
Sidepot should only be given to the top 3 finishers who participated.
It’s for the masses. It brings in more people. It’s not all about the money for everyone.
We always have a side pot it's for big bass and winner takes all
I agree with Todd all this, but there was a time when I consistently finished just out of the money. So that would’ve been pretty cool.
Side pot money should be totally separate from the tourney money, and never should they be joined.
Spot on, seems like a scammy insurance product
Right.